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Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2014.01.06 13:11:00 -
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I guess OP just thinks it would be best to just stop all scientific research, as it's "worthless".
I guess the OP is a special kind of person who has never heard of "making mistakes and adjusting the theory" along the way.
Get a life........................... or join a church in Alabama. You'd be happy there. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |

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Posted - 2014.01.06 14:04:00 -
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Akita T wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:In other words... whatever it is that they think that they have found (that they cannot actually see) is ultimately behaving differently then what they were originally looking for... and what was originally predicted to be there. It wasn't until three years ago that we've actually been able to "see" an electron, yet there was absolutely no contest over whether electrons do exist or not for a whole lot longer than that. Also, it's still not clear whether this is "the" Higgs Boson or the lightest of several Higgs Bosons, and further testing could take quite a few extra years.
This Anti-Science Movement is just plain-ol' Scary, tbh. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |

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Posted - 2014.01.06 22:32:00 -
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Malaclypse Muscaria wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:And yet, they are calling this picture of random subatomic decay of elementary particles... GÇ£godGÇ¥. ITT: theists butthurt about science brandishing agitated nonsense. News at 11. Start by learning about the real reason why the Higgs Boson was dubbed "the god particle", no need to have a degree on particle physics to understand that particular issue. The hubris of ignorance...
Yuppers. When they named it that back in the day, they could not have foreseen, and would be shocked, at it being so misused in a New Age of Anti-Science. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |

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Posted - 2014.01.06 22:34:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:baltec1 wrote:So what makes you think elementary school level qualifications lets you rubbish the cutting edge science that the greatest minds of humanity is currently working on?
You seemed to have missed the irony. My jest and sarcasm is meant to point out how those scientists... grow up to forget the most basic methods of science in the pursuit of their own wealth, fame and agendas. The "cutting edge" science that you speak of is also a place of egos, profits and improper/incomplete scientific methods.
..................and landing us on the Moon.
Oh wait. You probably think Stanley Kubrick helped NASA to fake that. (Danny's "Apollo 12 sweater" in "The Shining") "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |

Krixtal Icefluxor
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Posted - 2014.01.06 22:37:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:I guess OP just thinks it would be best to just stop all scientific research, as it's "worthless".
I guess the OP is a special kind of person who has never heard of "making mistakes and adjusting the theory" along the way.
No where in this thread or any other have I ever said such a thing. How you could get that from my op can only be explained through some reading comprehension issues on your side. As for "making mistakes and adjusting a theory" you must first apply the actual scientific method first... else the mistakes you make are in fact your fault. Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:[ This Anti-Science Movement is just plain-ol' Scary, tbh. Far more so is your disturbing lack of reading comprehension  @ Cynter DeVriesThx i am going to remember that link. It manages to explain that concept better then i ever have been able to. Akita T wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:In other words... whatever it is that they think that they have found (that they cannot actually see) is ultimately behaving differently then what they were originally looking for... and what was originally predicted to be there. It wasn't until three years ago that we've actually been able to "see" an electron, yet there was absolutely no contest over whether electrons do exist or not for a whole lot longer than that. Also, it's still not clear whether this is "the" Higgs Boson or the lightest of several Higgs Bosons, and further testing could take quite a few extra years. Hello again Akita  That is a totally different story all together. Electricity and magnetism were a well documented and studied OBSERVABLE phenomena that could be seen and measured long before an actual electron could be "seen" visually. I'd say the best proof of their existence prior to seeing one was how cathode ray beams acted in an electric field and how they produced X-rays. A "god particle" is a totally different thing that has no observable phenomena associated with it, whatsoever, outside of the imaginary role that Higgs intended it to play. A theory designed to plug the holes in their "theory of everything" AND they gave this man the Nobel Prize for it before it was even 100% confirmed. Remember, what they have found does not actually match what Higg's even predicted in the first place. It could just as well be something else all together. I call that dirty science.
Yeah right. I have no reading comprehension. I guess that's what got me 4 years at Rice University.
So, since you attacked me personally (oh and CCP will be looking at that), I will return in kind that you are just simply an angry idiot who has no idea at all what you are talking about or trying to say.
"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |

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Posted - 2014.01.06 22:46:00 -
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Even your opinions of charities for children is repugnant:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3737235#post3737235
...and that also apparently involved discussing some Forum Moderation.
As this is your first thread since August, I can only assume you've had to "involuntarily go away" for awhile already.
"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |

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Posted - 2014.01.08 15:07:00 -
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Onyx Nyx wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:Lame... LOL Ever so lame. But keep going by all means  Maybe you will make a come back eventually like lol-Triumvirate (dot) 2.0. Maybe one day you will actually write down your own theories, have it peer-reviewed and perhaps publish a paper that will give you the recognition you so desperately crave.
Yeah. OP's own Attitude Problem killed this thread from his very first post, eliminating any kind possibility of an "interesting discussion".
I wonder how many real life friends he has ? Probably not a lot if this is his way of communicating ideas.
My God. Talk about singular, obsessive thinking.............he is so determined that he is correct, there just isn't room for anyone else.
And he has not a clue as to how the scientific investigation process works.
i.e, We were completely wrong in originally labeling Pluto as a planet. That has now been corrected. THAT is what it's all about.
But OP would have rather had Science give up the ghost just because they were wrong on that one point. The subject of his posting is no different.
The Herd of Humanity could use some "thinning out" and culling, most indeed. Too many nonsensical ideas are out there. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |

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Posted - 2014.01.10 16:51:00 -
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Logical 101 wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:I am not posting here for fame, recognition or hoping it will "end well". I am posting here for exactly what I am getting, a bunch of nay sayers, faith driven science folk and one or two very smart people. Wouldn't you be better off posting on, say, one of the countless forums dedicated to scientific discoveries, discussions and results interpretations? Or is there some concern that you might get laughed off of those?
Seriously. What crap for a gaming forum, even if it's OOPE.
If OP is convinced he has all the answers, he should be posting where his professional peers post.
Asking for detailed explanations and outcomes from those at a layman level is just as idiotic as if he were a real doctor, asking for advice on this GAME FORUM.
Idiocy rules the day anymore and most indeed. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |

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Posted - 2014.01.10 16:53:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote: Besides, you don't know if I am posting on other forums right now do you? I usually am. This subject... not yet. But I will probably do so soon. ATM I have other concepts cooking and I like to do one at a time, per forum I choose to associate with.
Oh Jesus Christ on a rubber cross, just spare us. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |

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Posted - 2014.01.11 15:09:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:You simply lack imagination 
Nope. You are just a clown, that's all. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |

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Posted - 2014.01.11 15:10:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:Reiisha wrote:Whether or not the particle has been found, science isn't complete. Instead of fighting over nuances, personal attacks, pseudosciences and 'faith' in who's right, challenge all conclusions, doubt all facts and never stop trying to understand everything just a bit better than you do now. It is not the nuances that brings me to conflict, it is the questionable methods.
This makes absolutely no sense. You have already declared the entirety of science to be questionable. This is before your attitude about methodology described here. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |

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Posted - 2014.01.11 15:14:00 -
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Let's see OP build and design a "better" facility than CERN to prove his own wild "speculations".
Go ahead. Give it a whirl. We will all be massively impressed.
Upon hindsight, this thread is pointless. You are begging everyone for solutions and truth, to the point of insulting their solutions if they don't meet up with your bizarre criteria. But you have yet to even begin to state what your friggin' point is ??? "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |

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Posted - 2014.01.17 19:37:00 -
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I just find the idea of being skeptical of science (wtf else is there ????????, the answers ain't gonna be in the Bible), anti-science, or calling it's methodology flawed from top to bottom, to be a scary and dangerous mindset.
These self-absorbed know-nothings should get to work on their own methodologies, then report back to us with results, and quit pestering people for "definite" answers of which there are none, especially for what's being discussed here.
I really feel sorry for a lot of people, and what they find to be their life "priorities", and how much more could be accomplished in other directions with their energy expended on argumentative nonsense. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
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